CITAZIONE (mr.zinoviev @ 24/3/2024, 20:48)
vladvladConte...tu hai sempre una marcia in più
grazie Peter, dovere.
In effetti odio il cambio automatico..........
CITAZIONE (gil69 @ 24/3/2024, 20:47)
Ok. Io conteggiavo solo per albi. Ad esempio se un albo aveva adesivi +poster conteggiavo solo quell'albo come uno, anche se avevac2 gadgets. E poi inserivo anche i posterini 2 serie
eh no così diventa più complicato. Meglio dividere per tipologia di gadget, a mio parere. Cmq dai ci siamo capiti...
Sul conteggio dei posterini delle seconde serie invece , sono molto meno democratico. Spacciare, o da parte nostra considerare dei gadget, ciò che intrinsecamente non lo è, rappresenta un errore. Non è che ne faccio una battaglia politica, nel senso che non me ne frega niente di andare a "litigare" con l'autore del volume, che tra l'altro è un amico. Però se la corno negli ultimi due tre anni era ridotta alle lenticchie, cioè pubblicava sulla stessa già inaccettabile carta delle storie un poster per la maggior parte già edito anni prima con alcune eccezioni, beh non è che noi dobbiamo giustificare o santificare una politica di vacche magrissime dando dignità a ciò che non ne ha.
Addirittura uno dei posterini è la copertina del n.1 di dracula (1/18). Ma ti rendi conto? Si era partiti dai manifesti grandi e che riproducevano immagini pubblicitarie promozionali della marvel Usa dei più grandi autori, e si finisce cò ste porcherie? eh no.
Anzi per chi non abbia buttato tutti i soldi sui gadgets, c'è a giorni l'opportunità di portarsi a casa l'originale di Ditko di ciò che in italia fu il manifesto del n.1 dell'uomo ragno.
Quello vero di disegno, poiché il poster italico fu preso dall'immagine pubblicata che veniva da un ritocco di (pare) bill everett rispetto alla posa disegnata da Ditko.
Qui la descrizione del pezzo.
Offered here is what is to date, the most impressive Steve Ditko Spider-Man art image that we've ever seen surface for sale. This extraordinary, large ('twice-up') Steve Ditko Spider-Man Pin-Up artwork was illustrated during the master artist's classic Silver Age run on the character he famously co-created and illustrated between 1962 and 1966. The enormous, iconic image of Spider-Man striking an ideal pose was initially created for publication as one of the Marvel Masterworks pin-ups that ran periodically in the early Amazing Spider-Man monthly issues and annuals published during the Ditko era. Notes at the top of the art board include "Well done Steve" and "HOLD FOR FUTURE!", indicating that after Ditko illustrated it, the artwork was put into inventory for use at a later date. There is strong evidence that in 1966, a copy of this artwork was reworked by another artist (possibly Marie Severin) with some alterations and then published as one of the 6-foot "life-sized" posters of different Marvel characters that were sold as a set that year (see fourth image below). Evidence supporting this includes a note on the right side of the artwork that says "5 1/2 FEET HIGH BM-MATTE" (see second image below). Also supporting this is the similarity of the pose between the original artwork and the published poster. In the published poster, the right arm and left leg were repositioned and some additional inking was added. The image was tilted about 20 degrees to the left.
The 6-foot Spider-Man poster is one of the 'Holy Grails' of Spider-Man merchandise collectors. While the artwork sources for the other Marvel characters in the 6-foot posters set has always been easy to document, that has not been the case for the Spider-Man image until now. We believe that the discovery of this historic artwork can now put that long-time mystery to bed! Note that in addition to the 6-foot poster, the altered image was also part of the "Personality Posters", a set of 12" x 17" posters of eight Marvel characters also published in 1966. The altered image was also used as part of the 1966 Donruss Marvel card set. It appeared on both the retail display box and on a montage of heroes that appeared on the back of the cards when they were displayed in order (See fifth image below). The altered image The altered image was also used for the cover of the first comic book in Brazil to feature Spider-Man, published in 1968 (see sixth image below).
Notably, the artwork was inscribed and signed 57 years ago by Spidey's other co-creator, Stan Lee. While Lee signed a lot of material in his later years, his signatures from the heart of the Marvel Silver Age are considerably rare. According to the original owner of this artwork, it was gifted to him and his brother in 1967 by Stan Lee himself, during a visit to Marvel's offices and held onto until this year! Before gifting the artwork to the two brothers, Stan inscribed the piece in brown marker, "Happy web-slinging to Mark & David...Stan Lee."
According to the original owner, "In 1967 when I was 12 years old, my Dad worked for Playboy and went on a business trip to New York City and was able to bring the rest of the family for an extended visit. During our time in New York, my father was able to pull some strings with a publishing company who arranged for us to meet Stan Lee as my brother and I were huge comic book fans. From what I can recall of that day 57 years later, upon entering a large building, we were escorted to Stan Lee's office where Stan immediately greeted us with a smile and graciously agreed to give us a tour and as parting gift, he signed and gifted the pin-up which we were super excited to receive as my brother and I were both Spider-Man fans." It was not uncommon for original artwork to be given away to fans visiting the Marvel office during this time.
This piece was lettered by Artie Simek, one of Marvel's primary letterers during the Silver Age. There are instructions at the top of the board telling Ditko to ink the page first and then mail it to letterer Simek at his home in Elmhurst, NY. So it was Simek who lettered "Aunt May's FAVORITE NEPHEW, Spidey" in black marker.
Note: The title "A Marvel Masterwork Pin-Up" is a production paste-up. The board has some tanning that is common for its age. There is some staining in the art area along the left side underneath Spider-Man's raised arm. There is some additional staining outside of the art area along the border. Small amounts of opaque white appear throughout but only a tiny spot appears on the Spider-Man figure itself. There are some small pieces of tape and tape stains where it appears tape has fallen off both above and below the art area and to the right of the production paste-up.
come vedete la posa è rimaneggiata. Braccio destro e gamba sinistra.
Edited by vladvlad - 25/3/2024, 09:56
